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asasuper By asasuper
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Category: Uncategorised
04 August 2024

Note from the webmaster 1/25/2025.

This list was replaced. It is archived here as its contents were updated on the current list at:

Licensing

 

Motorglider licensing FAQ (frequently asked questions).

Motorglider and pilot requirements defined (PDF document that complements the FAQ)

Need training or endorsements?

Please contact someone on the list below to discuss your situation.

If you know or find someone who is NOT on the list below, please have them contact me so I can add them to the list (and if someone on the list doesn't do it anymore, I'd like to know that, too). Thanks!

Eric Greenwell (509-578-8707) or email me)

 
 
Will travel

 

These instructors will travel to other locations - please see their announcement in the state listed here:

Rae (Bud) Williams (Alabama)

Phil Abrams (Arizona)

Russ Hustead (Arizona)

SKY SAILING™, INC (California)

Michael Freed (California)

Dieter Bibbig (Colorado)

Shawn Knickerbocker (Florida)

Dave McConeghey (Kansas)

Joe Dobronski (Missouri)

Stuart Lieber (Minnesota)

Robert J. Mudd (New Mexico)

Davey Amos (North Carolina

Grant Smith (Washington)

Some will also ferry aircraft.

 
 
Alabama

 

Rae (Bud) Williams

Pegasus Aviation Services, LLC

Elmore (Montgomery), AL

CFI Glider (Self-Launch, Aero-Tow & Ground-Launch)

CFI Airplane, Instrument & Multiengine

ATP (ASMELS), CSIP (Avidyne & Perspective)

Motorglider training and self-launch endorsements per AC 61-94 available, will travel to your location.

Grob 109B 28:1, 2-place touring motorglider

$100/hr includes instructor.

I provide flight training at all levels, to include Self-launch & tail wheel endorsements, flight instruction and aircraft ferrying. Typical self-launch endorsement syllabus is 3-5 flight hours, depending on background and experience, plus ground training.

Come to my location or I will fly my motorglider anywhere in the USA to you for training ($100/hr) or travel to you to train you in your self-launch glider for low daily rate and expenses.

I am also an A&P/IA and provide A&P and inspection services.

Location: Elmore, AL

Phone: 334-294-2833 - cell

Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Arizona

 

Phil Abrams

CFI-G CFII ATP

Tucson, AZ, or will travel to your location for self-launch endorsements, intro rides, etc.

Grob 109B 28:1, 2-place self-launching sailplane

$125/hr includes instructor.

Location: KTUS, Tucson, AZ

Phone: (520) 222-6084

eMail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

website: www.soaringflight.com

Russ Hustead

Sky King Soaring LLC

Motorglider training and endorsements.

Aircraft: Katana Xtreme (expert), Pipistrel,  or your Stemme S-10 or Super Ximango

Location: Payson, AZ

Phone: 602 622-2257 cell

Cell: 602-622-2257

Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Web Site: www.skykingsoaring.com

 
 
California

 

Williams Soaring

Training and motorglider endorsements in an ASH-32Mi, .

Call Williams Soaring at: 530-473-5600

Or email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Website: https://www.williamssoaring.com/index.html

Location:

Williams Soaring

2668 Husted Road

Williams, CA 95987-5105

Oliver Dyer-Bennet

DG-USA

Training in a DG-505M, a high performance 50:1, 2-place self-launching sailplane. MG training & endorsements from a CFI/CFIG.

DG-505M $125 hr.

Instructor $50 hr.

3 hr. minimum per day.

Location: Sonoma Sky Park, CA & Minden, NV.

Phone: (707)942-5727, fax: (707)942-0885

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Jeffery Hazlegrove

Motorglider training and endorsements

Location: Windsor, CA

Phone: 707-838-8901

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

John Fulton

CFIG/MG

Location: Berkeley, CA

Phone: 510-666-9076

Bud Schurmeier

CFIG/MG, Stemme S10-VT

Location: Fallbrook, CA

Phone: 760-941-3703

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

SKY SAILING™, INC

Let Your Heart Soar! We have a Stemme S10-VT to do motorglider endorsements on a regular basis. We have year-round soaring, open 7 days a week 9 to 5. Garret Willat is available to go to other places.

Location: 31930 Hwy 79, Warner Springs CA 92086

Phone: (760) 782-0404 fax 782-9251

email: see the website for the address (spam avoidance is the reason)

website: www.skysailing.com

Rolf Peterson - see Nevada listing

Sport Pilot Examiner

Motorglider training and endorsements by Jon Thornburgh. Two Lambada UMF-13 and a Samba XXL motorgliders are available.

Location: Torrance Airport, Torrance, CA

Phone: 800-971-8710

email:

Website: www.SportPilotExaminer.com

Robert M. Riter

I do glider training in a HB-23. CFI-G.

Location: Torrance, CA

Riter Aviation

phone:  (310) 614-0759

email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Web Site:  riteraviation.com

Jennifer Foreman

I do glider training in your glider; currently, I have experience in the Diamond HK-36 series, Pipistrel and Stemme.

Location: Petaluma, CA

Aeroventure

Phone: (707) 778-6767

email: tsongololo at twiggybird.com

Web Site: www.aeroventure.com


 
 
Michael Freed 

 

CFIG - glider training and motorglider endorsements in a Pipistrel Sinus. Will travel. I am also an A&P

Location: Los  Angeles ca

Phone: (818) 800-1771

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. 



 
 
Colorado

 

Phil Ecklund

CFIG/MG

Location: Boulder, CO

Phone: 303-449-4300

Alfonso Ossorio

I am a CFI and DPE with a Motor glider endorsement.

Location: Boulder, CO

Phone: 303-665-4499

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Jer Eberhard

Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD

Grob-109, Ximango and Stemme S10-VT training and endorsements in

customer's aircraft.  Mountain and ridge soaring and flying.  Steamboat

Springs and Salida, Colorado are favorites.


FAA Safety Team member.

Location: Fort Collins, CO

Phone: 970-231-6325

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

website: http://www.jerslash.net

 
 
Delaware

 

Roland Martin

I am offering motorglider instructions and rental of a Super-Ximango AMT-200

New Garden (N57) airport in south-east Pennsylvania, near Wilmington, Delaware.

Phone: 610-444-1266

web site: http://sailplanesandmore.com

 
 
Florida

 

Shawn Knickerbocker (6/2006)

Motorglider training available, will travel to your location. Touring motorglider training course on request to include the AMT-200 and 300, VA-17, Katana series, L-13 SEH. G-109, etc...

Annual & recurrent training available also. FAA DPE in motorgliders, can issue self-launch certificate (FAA) at the PVT/COMM level and self-launch endorsements as per A/C 61-94. Can help set up training programs also.

Phone: 904.269.5861 (Florida) cell: 904.382.9614

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Roger Buchanan

May be able to give training and endorsements in your motorglider.

Location: Winter Haven, FL

Phone 863-307-4396

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Jerry Owens

No current contact information. If you know his situation, please have him contact This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. to update his entry here.

Eugene Zakharenkov 

No current contact information. If you know his situation, please have him contact This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. to update his entry here.

Rand Vollmer (Contact information current as of 3/13/2023)

CFIG; LSRM A, WS, PP, and Glider

Services available: Self-Launch Glider Training, new pilots, add a rating, and BFRs. All training conducted in your Pipistrel Virus or Sinus Gliders - or call to confirm availability of Rand's Glider. 

 Location: Zephyrhills (Tampa) Florida - Will travel

 Phone: (813) 774-2127

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Georgia

 

Tom Muller

Motorglider training and endorsements in a Ximango AMT 200.

Location:  Thomasville, GA

Phone: 229.221.4018 FAX 229.551.0984

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Idaho

 

Jeff Jobe - See Washington listing


Glenn Vitucci


I give self-launching endorsements in my 2016 Distar Sundancer, and CFI-G renewals.


Location: Driggs, ID (KDIJ)

Phone: 208 313 6134 cell

Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Website: www.SpitzerRealty.com


 
 
Illinois

 

Skill Aviation

Flight training in your motorglider. CFI-G: Roderick Read  847-970-0113 This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

2346 West Beach Road

Waukegan, IL   60087-1530

Phone: 847-599-9955

Web site: http://www.skillaviation.com

 
 
Indiana

 

Please contact me if you know of any motorglider instructors in Indiana

Eric Greenwell - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Kansas

 

Dave McConeghey (contact info valid as of 2/20/2023)

Motorglider Instruction and Delivery; 2 examiners available.

Experience in: RF4D, RF5B, Vivat, Grob 109, 109B, Taifun 17E, Scheibe Falke SF25C, SF28, Pipistrel Virus, SW, Sinus, Ximango, Lambada U13, Phoenix U15, Schweizer SGM-2-37, Dimona HK36, Brasov IS-28M2

Phoenix U15 Light Sport Available for Instruction and Rental.

Location: KAAO in Wichita, Kansas

Cell Phone: 316-409-9624

Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Michigan

 

Sandhill Soaring Club

Club owned Scheibe SF25C.  Club membership is required, several qualified instructors available.

Location: Trenton, MI

Phone info line:  734 761 1132

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Website: www.sandhillsoaring.org

Mailing address:  PO Box 2021 Ann Arbor, MI 48106

Mark Grant

CFI Instrument, Airplane & Glider (Self-Launch, Aero-Tow & Ground-Launch)

Experienced in Taifun 17E, Scheibe SF25C, Stemme S-10V, Ximango AMT 200, Schweizer SGM 2-37/TG-7A, Samba XXL, Pipistrel Virus 912 and Hobbyliner HB23/2400.

Self-launch & tail wheel endorsements, flight instruction and aircraft ferrying.

Location:  Detroit Metropolitan Area

Phone:  248-788-4040

Email:  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Minnesota

 

Steve Fischer

CFII, MEI, CFIG aerotow, ground, self-launch, seaplane, helicopter, DPE

Location: Minneapolis

Phone:

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Stuart Lieber

CFI-G; Self Launch, Aerotow, ATP, CFI, CFI-I, MEI, MSP FAAST Rep/Wings Pro

SAFEpilots.org - Board Member

Location: Stanton (Twin Cities), Minnesota or will travel to your location for self-launch endorsements/training

Motorglider Training and Endorsements in our Grob 109B

Cell/Txt:  952-232-5045

Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Missouri

 

John A. Teipen, MCFI

CFI:    ASEL, AMEL, ASES, Gliders (aero-tow and self launch).

DPE:  ASEL / Gliders (aero-tow and self-launch) – CFI Initial / Renewal / Reinstatement, Commercial, Private, Sport Pilot , and Instrument (ASEL)

Location: FAA Central Region / Greater St Louis

Phone: 314-863-5941

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

www.avtrain.net

 
 
Montana

 

John Hartley

Motorglider training and endorsements in a DG 500M

Location: Bozeman, MT

Phone: 406-586-2482

e-mail:

 
 
New Mexico

 

Robert J. Mudd

CFI-G&A I do not however have a two seat MG available to me now. I can travel to the new owner's location.  Usually  the insurance company requires about 10 hours of dual so normally about 5 days would be needed to cover flying and maintenance issues. I have experience in HK-36/Diamond Katana Extreme, DG-800, Pipistrel, Apis, Sinus,Virus and Taurus.

A&P Rotax 912/914 certificated mechanic

Location: Moriarty, New Mexico

Ph 505 269-8234

 
 
New York

 

George Wiederkehr

2009 Barrett Rd.

Ballston Spa, NY 12020

Phone: 518.884.8169

E-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Nevada

 

Andrew Wood

ATP, CFII, MEI, CFIG aerotow, ground, self-launch

Location: Minden NV

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


Jim Lee

CFI/CFIG: Available on a limited schedule for self-launch endorsements, glider training and flight reviews using the Phoenix S-LSA glider. Can also provide flight reviews or checkouts in your own glider or airplane.

Location: Minden, NV (MEV)

phone: 352-250-5644

fax:

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Rolf Peterson

I provide motor glider training in my Grob G109B and give motor glider self-launch endorsements.

I have given training and endorsements in a DG 500M, but no longer have it available to me to give dual flight instruction in retractable engine self-launch glider operations and emergency procedures.

I can give ground instruction in retractable engine system operation and emergency procedures.

Training Locations:

    • Byron Airport, Byron, CA

    • Air Sailing Gliderport, Reno, NV

Phone: 925-447-5620 or 925-447-4255  Cell: 925-784-0344

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Tupper Robinson

Motorglider training and endorsements in DG 500M

Location: Minden, NV

Phone: 775-782-4944

or contact:

High Country Soaring

Phone (775) 782-4944, fax (775) 782-4348

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

website: www.greatbasin.com/~hcsoaring/index1.htm 

Mike Moore

CFIG/MG

Location: Minden, NV

Phone: 775-782-1224

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Motorglider tours Las Vegas

Fly in a Grob 109 motorglilder. Beginner to Advanced mountain, ridge,and thermal flying (up to 18,000ft in summer), and you can build time for your commercial license airplane. Dual instruction only.

Location: Las Vegas, NV

Phone: (702) 290-3892

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. (or use contact form on website)

website: www.motorglidertourslasvegas.com/index.html

Oliver Dyer-Bennet - see listing for California

 
 
North Carolina

 

Davey Amos

Will travel and provide flight training and Self-Launch endorsements in your aircraft.  Specializing in Pipistrel and Diamond Aircraft plus have time in Phoenix and Ximango Motorgliders.

Location: Salisbury, NC (will travel - contact for details)

Phone: (704) 507-7945 to arrange your training

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Gary Garavaglia

I can train for self launch endorsements. I am also a glider examiner DPE in NC. I can also travel for expenses. Pilot certificate number 2045275. 

Location: 43NC Bahnson Gliderport in Farmington, NC. 

Phone: 704.340.8924 to arrange your training

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Ohio

 

Sporty's Academy

Motorglider for training and rental in a Diamond Xtreme (HK-36-TC), with several self-launch CFIG's on staff and 2 glider DPE's (one full-time, one part-time).

Location: Batavia, OH (Clermont County/Sporty's Airport)

Phone: 513.735.9500

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

website: http://sportysacademy.com/

 
 
Oregon

 

Robert Brock

I have endorsed over 40 glider pilots for self launch and taken 8 totally through the private pilot glider program in motorgliders only. I can help you, too! You must supply the motorglider, as I currently do not have access to a two-place motorglider. Please contact me to discuss arrangements for endorsements or flight training.

Location: Beaverton, OR

Phone: 503-888- 1600

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King Povenmire

CFIG/MG

Location: Veneta OR

Phone: 543-935-6449

Mark Stroble

CFIG/MG

Location: OR

Phone: 541-895-5984

 
 
Pennsylvania

 

Tom Knauff

Ridge Soaring Gliderport

CFIG/MG We have a  Duo Discus T and I believe a used SF28A is on the way.

Location: Julian, PA

Phone: (814) 355 2483, fax: (814) 355 2633

Email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Tennessee

 

Steve Dee

I provide flight training at all levels, and Self-Launch endorsements. My Pipistrel Taurus Self Launch Sailplane is equipped with the new ClearNav audio vario and ClearNav, and goes for $180 per hour, dual. Typical endorsement syllabus is 3-5 flight hours, depending on background and experience, plus ground training.

Ground training/cockpit checkouts available for ASH-26e, as well as other self-launch and touring motorgliders. I have experience in the Phoenix U15, Grob 109B, Ximango AMT-200, Katana Extreme, Taifun, Pipistrel Sinus and Virus, and Vivat motorgliders, plus Grob 103SL, DG-400, ASH-26e, Taurus, Ventus 2CM, ASH-25Mi, and Nimbus 3DM Self-Launchers. I'm willing to travel throughout the USA to come to your location for expenses.

Recommended by Marfa Soaring and DG USA-East; call or write for list of satisfied customers. ATP, CFIG/MG, FAA Designated Examiner, SSA Life Member since 1967.

Location: Memphis, TN (will travel - contact for details)

Phone: (901) 652-8270 (cell) to arrange your training

  • e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

 
 
Texas

 

Pilot's Choice Aviation

Motor glider training, endorsements, and rental in a Grob 109.

Location: Georgetown, TX.

phone: 512-869-1759

e-mail:

Burt Compton

Motorglider and glider training year-round in west Texas.

Location:   Marfa (MRF), Texas

Phone:   800-667-9464

e-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Website:  www.flygliders.com

 

Jean-Pierre C. Ducos

CFI-G/MG SSAI: Two G109, one for instruction and demos, the other for solo and rentals. Endorsement package for Glider pilots: $575.00 2 hours ground inst. and 4 hours flight inst. G109 rental including fuel: $75.00/hour. Hill Country located, soar year round. Open Wednesday to Sunday.

Location: San Antonio, Texas

Phone: 210-667-3716

email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

website: www.learn2soar.net

John Fodemaier

Motorglider training and endorsements

Location: San Antonio, TX

Phone: 210-493-5635, fax 210-493-3633

e-mail:

Ed Shilen

Motorglider training and endorsements

Location: Gun Barrel City, TX

Phone: 903-887-9702

e-mail:

George Vaeth

Motorglider training and endorsements in a Grob 109A

Location: Dallas, TX

Phone: 214-350-1681

e-mail:

Carol Walker

Motorglider instructor and FAA designated pilot examiner

Location: Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex

Phone: (972)-475-4320

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Beth Jenkins

Location: Georgetown, TX

Phone: 512-869-1759

Fred Blair 

CFIG/MG instruction in Diamond Xtreme HK36TTC

Location: Caddo Mills, TX (7F3)  North of Dallas

Phone: 214-616-4727

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Dave White

CFI/CFIG Available 7 days a week, by appointment, for Self Launch Endorsement, Glider Training, and Flight Reviews using the Pipistrel Flex S-LSA Glider. Can also provide Flight Reviews or Checkouts in your Glider or Airplane.

Location: Boerne Stage Airfield- Boerne (5C1), Texas

Phone: (830) 388-0120 (leave message)

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Virginia

 

Robbie Elves

Motorglider/tailwheel endorsements, BFR - Katana Xtreme  - self-launch certificate (FAR 61.31(j)) and self-launch training in accordance with FAA Advisory Circular AC 61-94.  FAA examiner locally available for pilot certification in the Katana Xtreme.

ATP/Commercial Glider, FAA "Gold Seal" Instructor

Location: Richmond VA.

Phone: 804-274-1559 Work, 804-740-5760 Home

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Washington

 

Jeff Jobe

Motorglider training and endorsements

Glider, Single and Multi Airplane, Rotorcraft Helicopter Certified Flight Instructor

Locations:  Seattle, WA and Lewiston, ID

Phone: 206 389 1241

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Ad Astra Aviation

CFIG/MG

Location: Wenatchee, WA

Phone: 509-670-5194

Skip Gregoire

CFIG/MG

Location: Ephrata, WA

Phone: 509-754-5773

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Angus McKinnon

CFIG/MG Instruction in a Grob 109A and endorsements.

Location: Bellingham, WA

Phone: 360.671.9605   Fax 360.671.9605

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Grant Smith

I will travel for training in your aircraft or a Grob 109A, which is available for insruction at Pacific Aerosport 50 miles north of Seattle. Instrument training is also available in the Grob or in your aircraft.

Location: Renton, WA

Phone: 425 271-7464

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Website: http://cfi4u.sitesled.com

 
 
Wisconsin

 

Ronald Kinoschi

No current contact information. If you know his situation, please have him contact This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. to update his entry here.

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04 August 2024

Tom Seim has assured me he will update this article

The following applies primarily to high performance, self-launching sailplanes, not the more airplane-like touring motorgliders such as Grob 109, Taifun,Phoenix, etc., that have much different characteristics.

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04 August 2024

h3>Motorgliders = Opportunity

I've learned some things since getting my motorglider.. One of the most interesting things is how people that aren't motorglider pilots have a very limited concept of what a motorglider can provide.

"Opportunity" is the key word.

Everyone understands a few things, most of all what I call "towplane avoidance". The ability to self-launch gives you the opportunity to launch when you are ready, thereby avoiding the wait for the towplane and the delay caused by all those other people in front of you. This part everybody envies.

Secondly, everyone easily grasps the idea of "retrieve avoidance", using the motor to avoid landing away from home, whether it's another airport, or even farmer's field. Most people like this idea, though some don't, believing the chance of landing out is what defines the sport.

Indeed, self-launch and self-retrieve are important , but these abilities don't really allow a change in the way you soar, but just allow you to do it more conveniently or more often. After all, a typical weekend flyer at their favorite gliderport has little trouble getting a tow, avoiding a landout, or getting a friend or towplane to retrieve them once or twice a year.

Not so obvious is that a motorglider allows you to enhance your soaring. This is what is really important to me. Most glider pilots don't realize how much their self-imposed constraints limit their soaring. The biggest constraint is probably the desire to soar home, instead of getting retrieve from that airport or field. Once you realize you no longer have to soar home to get home, your soaring opportunities increase immensely. Here are some examples:

1) I stay hours longer in the great soaring in the mountains, while the plain gliders scoot for home before the thermals die in the basin.

2) I fly in low cloudbase, marginal, but exhilarating conditions when no one else will bother launching, because the lift is too unpredictable.

3) Sometimes I fly like it's a record attempt, speed ring way up and ruthlessly rejecting all but the very best thermals. Great practice, and the palms still get sweaty!

4) The soaring dying between me and home? I keep going towards the still good air knowing I can motor home if I need to.

5) Miss the wave on the first try? Instead of dashing back to the airport, I try another place, and another, until I get it right.


Case Study

Let me expand on two of these situations from last summer.

One day in Ionia, Michigan, the cu started early, but only to a two thousand feet AGL base. None of the locals launched when I did, preferring to wait for the bases to rise. The lift was less than a knot, but there seemed to be no sink, and every cloud worked. Gently dolphining from one puffy cumulus to the next, I stayed between 1500' and 2000' (AGL) as I covered about 70 miles in the first two hours. How different from our usual flying! I flew a four hour, 150 mile cross-country in these odd conditions, and never required the motor. Without the it, I would have flown locally, but not gone cross-country. The locals never did fly because the bases didn't rise until too late in the day.

In mid-April, happy cumulus clouds over Hermiston encouraged me to head south. The other pilots went north, fearing the Hermiston basin would, as usual, die by mid-afternoon, cutting off their return to Richland. I was certain they were right, but with my ticket home nestled behind the wing, I went past Heppner then pushed well into the mountains. The bases rose, the lift increased, streets appeared, and best of all, I was flying in new territory. What a rush! Late in the day, I turned back with John Day, Oregon, in sight. The clouds ended before Pendleton, Hermiston was a pit, but with slow, careful climbs (and 50:1 glides), I inched my way across Hermiston and the Columbia River. Once again I managed to get home without the motor.

Sometimes I do have to use the motor to get home. Most of the time, I discover there is more lift out there than we realize. Because a retrieve or landout is so inconvenient, most glider pilots play it safe by heading back early, or by not going there in the first place. We take pride in getting back, and don't think of all the soaring we missed. Why else is the first question I often asked after my flight is "Did you use the motor?", instead of "How was the soaring?"

It astounds me that many glider pilots, even some motorglider pilots, consider it a "failure" if the motor is used after the launch. A record attempt will fail if the motor is used, but not a recreational flight. Most of my post-launch motor use is anticipated hours before it happens: I frequently, consciously, make soaring decisions that will almost surely require the motor to return home. Why? So I can do more and better soaring! Read the examples again, and consider this: would you make different soaring decisions if every airport, duster strip, and yes, even every cut hayfield, had a towplane and pilot, eagerly waiting to tow you home for a five bucks?

I sure have.

The joys and pleasures of owning a motorglider, and how you might be able to afford one.


Affording a Motorglider

If you already own a glider, then YOU may already be able to afford a self-launching, high performance motorglider! Let me show you how, in 2018 costs.

The first thing to realize is the motor is about a $30,000-$60,000 premium over a "regular" glider, whether you are buying a used one or a new one. There are other costs, plus some avoided costs, like tows. Here's an example of about what the net yearly cost might be for an active pilot living in Seattle, WA, in 2008, but doing most of his soaring a 150 mile drive away in Ephrata, WA, where the weather is drier and the clouds are higher:

Added costs:

$2000 interest cost (or interest not earned) on the $40K motor purchase @ 5%

  $200 for the additional cost due to the motor during the annual inspection

  $600 insurance on the motor value

  $200 fuel and oil for 50 "launches" and three self-retrieves

$3000 Total additional costs

Avoided costs:

$1650 30 regular tows at $55/tow (Ephrata)

  $375 5 tows at $75/tow at "Big Bucks Soaring" in Nevada

  $360 3 aero-retrieves at $120 each

  $100 2 car retrieves plus dinner for crew

$2485 Total avoided costs

Net additional cost: $3000 - $2485= $515


Summary

As you already guessed, using a motorglider exactly as you used your unpowered glider is more costly, though you are spared the aggravation of the line-up for tows and the occasional retrieve.

 

 

Parowan Soaring Camp

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04 August 2024

The Auxiliary Powered Sailplane Association (ASA) is pleased announce plans for the 2025 Parowan Soaring Camp in Utah. But first, please note the following details:

 1) We have limited space at Parowan so we extend invitations instead asking for entry applications. Previous year participants get first choice to be offered an invitation, and once we have an initial headcount we invite from a waiting list. The process will be started in February, including updating the waiting list. Please contact Dan Rihn (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.) if you would like to be added to the waiting list.

2) The 2025 ASA Parowan Soaring Camp is a "Self Launch" only camp; "Self Launch" capability is required. The ASA enjoyed the presence of the towed gliders and pilots for many years, and initially, there were sustainer-style motorgliders the needed towing, too. But, when a ramp revision cut the number of tiedowns from 40+ to about 22, there was no longer room for our friends that require a tow. The increasing difficulty of securing a towplane and towpilot compounded the problem.

Flying dates are Tuesday June 17th thru Monday June June 30th

  • Limited to 21 gliders/pilots
  • Only gliders with Self-Launch capability will be admitted - no tows will be available
  • Power FLARM and a working Comm Radio are required - NO EXCEPTIONS!
  • Current ASA membership required

The Camp Fee will be $200 for each pilot;

  • Includes one banquet dinner on Saturday June 28th at the Parowan Cafe
  • Non-refundable and non-transferable
  • If the camp is cancelled, the fee will be refunded

Key Dates (Updated on Feb 2, 2025) 

  • Camp Dates June 17 thru July 30 2025
  • Invitations and Applications sent out- February 1, 2025
  • Applications Due - March 1, 2025
  • Camp Fee Due - April 1, 2025
  • Go-No-Go May 1, 2025

We already have a wait list building so please be honest about your plans for 2025 when 7DR sends out the inquiry 

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